What is Hemel Hempstead like?(13 Posts)
Me and my husband are looking to move out of London as we have 2 young boys and desperately need more space and good nursery/ primary school.
We love St Albans but it is pricey and have found HH to offer more for your money. Please could you advise/ give guidance on the following:
- good areas to look/ where to avoid (to rent)
- good primary/ nurseries
- what's on for toddlers, playgroups etc
- general opinions on the area/ place
Would be greatly appreciated
We recently moved here from SE London with our three children and are renting until we can afford to buy again. At first I thought the same as you - St Albans would be nicer but was out of our price range. But having lived here 8 months I think I actually prefer Hemel for our family at least. The traffic is less hectic for starters ;-)
Anyway, in answer to your questions:
a) Boxmoor, Chaulden Vale (not necessarily Chaulden itself), Leverstock Green, although it's annoyingly far from the station, parts of Apsley (the marina, Manor Estate, although the latter suffers from train/A41 noise) are all nice.. obviously you pay for this though. The really nice parts are in Felden, super expensive though. The easy way to tell if a place is not that great is what the properties are going for - if it's cheap, it's not as nice. Having said that, compared to where we lived in London, any part of Hemel is far, far nicer. We made up our minds by getting shortlists from having a look on Streetview, then doing drive-arounds to get a feel for the place.
b) The best primaries are considered to be South Hill (Boxmoor) and Two Waters (Apsley), plus there's a good academy at Bovingdon I think, and I think there might be a good academy over at Woodhall Farm. Boxmoor School used to be one of the best, it is a good school that suffered a few years back from a retiring disinterested head, but it has turned around again now and is most definitely on the way back up again and has always had good SATS. Micklem (Chaulden) is also a school rapidly improving thanks to a fantastic new head. St Roses's is a good catholic school. There may be more, but those were the ones that kept cropping up during my research.
The Hemel School is a decent secondary for the future, and it's not impossible with the right scores (11+ etc) to get into selective schools in Watford or Chesham - there are direct buses.
I didn't do a lot of digging about with nurseries because we were happy with the first one I looked around - Positive Steps in Apsley. Very reasonable price, and very reasonable and lovely management plus the staff there are great too. I've heard negative anecdotes about Lime Hill (leaving children to cry) and Flowerpots (apparently the staff were like air hostesses!) but these are just stories reported by one parent each time so aren't necessarily indicative of a place.
There are loads of playgroups for toddlers. I never took mine to any as they were on the wrong days or in the wrong places, but there are plenty about. The gymnastics place does a soft play every weekday morning for 45 minutes which is popular. I think the library does some reading stuff on some weekdays too.
I love the place. Sure, the town centre is, well, a bit shit, but it's no worse than most towns of this size that aren't "chic" (for want of a better word) like Berko for instance. The usual chainstores are there, the TK Maxx is pretty good - you can buy what you need to in most cases and there's always Milton Keynes or Watford if not.
Town Centre aside though, it's perfect. We're an active family so we really appreciate Sportspace with its five swimming pools (the outdoor one is fabulous in this heat!), the one-of-the-best-nationally gymnastics club, the Snow Centre with real snow, the climbing wall (massive!) - all of these have classes for 4 years old and above, and in some cases younger. I think in most cases there is nothing better for these activities for quite some distance. Plus never mind the masses of walks/runs along the canal, through the forests etc. And 25 minutes into Euston is not to be sniffed at, and 20 minutes to Luton airport (yet not on the flightpath) is incredibly convenient.
I've found the people to be very welcoming, chatty, friendly and possibly a bit more diverse (racially and culturally) than some of the more expensive towns locally. I have never, ever, once felt unsafe or intimidated, even after catching the last train back from London and walking home in the pitch dark on my own.
And some parts are very beautiful - the actual moor at Boxmoor with the wild ponies (loads of foals right now), the canal, the woods, the Nickey Line disused railway line which goes to Harpenden.
If we want the nicer shops/restaurants etc of St Albans or Berko, we drive or catch the train, so I don't feel we're missing out. They're still there nearby for us to enjoy. On a daily basis I use things like the various fabulous sports facilities far more often than I feel the need to go shopping in smart, independent shops, so on a practical basis it's a better location. There are a lot of parents at the various activities we do that have driven in from other towns and been fighting with the traffic.. in most cases we have just walked over. I read somewhere once that although it is lovely living in a town with a (say) nice cathedral, how often would you actually visit it? For me it's about the practicalities!
I really feel we hit the jackpot living here in terms of suitability for our family (everyone is different after all with different priorities) and have no regrets! :-)
Hope that helps a bit! Sorry for the essay, but I figure the more the merrier plus I never know when to stop!!
Thanks ever so much for that it was very helpful and informative and will help as we try and figure out where to go.
You're welcome! Always happy to answer any further questions you might have later on too
Hi, I am considering HH as well and I have some questions.
Can I ask you how it is like during the weekend/holidays (like Christmas for example). Is there anything organised, is the city centre full of people or nobody around? And how is the Gadebridge area?
Thanks a lot!
I think Gadebridge is not one of the best areas, but it is hard to judge without seeing it.
I will write down my experience that will 99% match MurderOfProse's
Good areas, as mentioned above, are Apsley, Boxmoore, Felden, Leverstock Green and I would add Jarman Park...
Good schools are: South Hill, Two Waters, St Roses (it is a grade 1 school but has only Reception class, y1, y2!). Another good catholic school is St Albert the Great. Recently good strong 2 Oftsed report and moved to a sparkling new building recently... It caters Nursery, Reception, Y1-Y6. Now most schools do Mathletics, and these schools' maths results are among the best in the country.
Good nurseries are (again the same ones): Positive Steps (good opening hours for commuters to London: 7.30-6.15!), Jack and Jills (very clean, nice staff).
Good secondaries are: Hemel School (more about music and art, some buildings are a bit outdated), JFK (strong maths and science, children get to unis to study IT, pharmacy...).
You asked about Xmas. The Marlows organizes every year street stalls, inside of the shopping center turns to Santa's Home, reindeer/teddy display. Dressed up Santas giving out chocolate golden coins... However to see something very special it is worth to go to Watford Harlequin.
thanks a lot DrOetker! I went to Hemel on Thursday but I have to say I was not impressed. I really liked Boxmoore but I couldn't find a suitable flat at a reasonable price. That's a pity.
What puts many people off is the town center. However it will be rebuilt very soon.
Do you have to commute to London every day? You can consider Woodhall Farm and the houses around Lime Walk (don't know the name of the area). They are further from the station but more affordable.
I have to commute to Hatfield, still don't know where my husband will have to commute since he's having a few interviews these weeks.
In the end today I decided to go for a flat in Hitchin: direct train to Hatfiled and the rent is cheaper so it compensates for the extra cost of nursery.
Yep, Hemel town centre almost put us off too.. it doesn't reflect the rest of the town at all in my opinion. If you can see past the shabbiness and see it on a purely functional basis it is perfectly adequate really and if you want anything more fancy there are plenty of other towns around. And as has been mentioned, there's a LOT of redevelopment in the pipeline.
Milton Keynes is amazing at Christmas, for the record, albeit 30-40 minutes drive away. Worth the journey though.
There's not a lot of flats in Boxmoor due to it being more villagey which probably explains the higher prices, although Boxmoor in general is priced higher than most of the rest of the area anyway.
Hope you enjoy Hitchin! I have not managed to visit there yet!
You have all probably Visited Seen and moved by now, but I'll add my view for future reference . I have 3 children and grandchildren . Schools change from era to era depending on Headteacher and relationship with staff, for example there was a Primary School in Nash Mills notorious for being of bad reputation in the 1970s, a few years later it was a brilliant school with a wonderful headmistress. Senior schools have all had poor reports and good reports at one time or another . All depends on harmony between the staff and Head . The rougher areas to live would be Highfield & Bennetts End - parts of Adeyfield but not all. Preferable areas are Boxmoor and Leverstock Green Village.
Having said that Hemel isn't a nasty town, there has been a lot of money invested into it over the years . It's reasonably safe to walk at night - the most I've ever encountered in my 50 years living here - was a drunk asking for change for the bus in 1983. Hemel is an ok place to live - my family originate from the East End of London - you would experience far worse there
what's gadebridge like? saffron lane area? we have 3 small children and looking at a house there
hi all just wanted any info you can give me please i have just moved here the place I'm living is bowmans court which is in highfield by fletcher way is this a ok and safe place to live many thanks
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