Did you give birth in RAEI?

(47 Posts)
Bellared Tue 17-Nov-09 22:14:15

What was your experience of it if you did?

mattymoo Wed 03-Mar-10 00:20:36

Hi all, I am from Ashton and I have my son at RAEI back in Dec 07. Had C section and those staff were brilliant but back on the ward it was traumatic and upsetting. Nurses were really rude and unhelpful. I vomitted at one point when my hubby came to see my at afternoon visit and when he came back for the evening session I was still sat in the vomit. My hubby said to the nurse "why is my wife still not been cleaned up?" and he was told "dont speak to me in that tone, we dont tolerate ABUSE and you will be removed"!!!! I was going to make an official complaint but never got round to it but we have vowed we will never go back there again. Also, at one point i was getting dressed for the first time and a scottish lady came shouting through the ward saying "what are all these curtains pulled round for?" and left me very embarrased and upset. That is a truly honest story of my experience in Wigan's maternity ward and will never go back there.
Hope this makes other mums who had similar experience know that it wasnt just you being "over emotional"! lol

gemmac1 Fri 12-Mar-10 12:19:17

Mattymoo I am sooo glad you felt the same as me about RAEI. I thought after reading the more recent posts that it was just me that had experienced rude, unhelpful and uncaring staff.

mattymoo Mon 22-Mar-10 20:14:32

Hi gemmac1, it wasnt just you AT ALL!
am happy for the people who say they had a good experience and am jealous of the mum whos husband was allowed to stay through meal times as I would have loved that, i was told absolutely no one was allowed to stay through meals, even my husband so i dont understand why one rule for one person etc.......but you not alone! lol
On the day we were leaving i walked out to the main desk to say goodbye and was walking around soothing the baby whilst my hubby got my bag and the nurse shouted at me in front of everyone "you are not allowed to walk around with the baby as you might fall over!"
everyone stopped to look at me!
Why do they do the job if they dont like people? lol

MJValentine Tue 20-Apr-10 17:15:30

Hi I had my little girl in RAEI in Feb 2007 and my experience was terrible. The delivery was traumatic in itself but the midwives on the ward just added to the trauma. At one time (after nursing for about 4 hours but that's another story) I jumped in the shower after my baby had fallen asleep. Within a few minutes the midwives were banging on the door as she'd woken up. They shouted through the door (in front of all the other mums on the ward)'how dare you have a shower whilst she's crying, get out now'. I actually heard one of them say I was a wicked mother. I got ready as quickly as I could and explained that she'd been asleep when I got in the shower but the midwife literally grabbed me and shoved me to my bed and told me to sort her out! Also I had no help with breastfeeding hence the 4 hour 'feeds'!
I did put in a complaint and met with the PALS officer, one of the consultants and the head midwife. Whilst they were sympathetic there was no real apology, I think because I'd gone to the meeting by myself so there was nobody to back me up. They did arrange counselling though as I was traumatised by the whole experience and the counsellor was great.
I'm glad though that some people have good experiences as the facilities are good.

mookle Wed 21-Apr-10 15:49:01

Oh Crap. I'm due a ELCS at RAEI end june - thought Billinge was bad (had DS1 there) but it seems all the same problems from billinge upped and moved to RAEI - I was hoping a change of venue might have imrpoved things - obviously not - although itdoes appear that it depends on what shifts(therefore what midwvies) you end up in hospital on - Heres hoping I get a nice midwife shift day/days LOL!

Oh well forewarned is forearmed!!

Bellared Tue 27-Apr-10 20:14:08

Hi MJV, I got shouted at by one midwife as DS would not take the breast or bottle 'I'm not having another one in Special Care so you better get some sown him'.

Hi Mookle, the MW in the delivery suite were lovely.

I hope your experience is one of the good ones!

mookle Wed 28-Apr-10 09:26:09

Hi Bellared - Me too! But at least this time it wont be such a shock to be treated like an inconvenience! I remember at Billinge after I had DS, the midwife shouting at me for sitting with tears streaming down my face and basically telling me not to be so soft because I had been given no painkillers since the previous day (after a traumatic birth with forceps delivery and episiotomy and a 9lb70z first baby)despite asking every nurse that had passed me since 7am that morning (this was around 11am - so overnight in pain and 4 hours in the morning in extreme pain)!! Nice!

Well this time I'm taking my own painkillers with me!

Bellared Wed 28-Apr-10 21:09:25

He he, contraband painkillers grin I'm having a home birth next time.

Did you go to Leigh Infirmary for ante natal checks? They were lovely MW's.

I've only ever seen Billinge on the program that was shown on Home and Health but that was filmed yonks ago.

mookle Thu 29-Apr-10 07:34:42

LOL! I was having DS when that was filmed (8 yrs ago - although it looks longer ago on the programme I have to admit!!)grin its taken me 8 years to get over all the issues from DS's birth and have another DC (both physical and mental). Hence the C section

This time they can all sod off! Although I'm hoping I can keep that attitude when I'm in pain and vulnerable sad So yes definitely lots of contraband and they can try and take it off me! grin

Good luck with your home birth I am sure that will be a much better experience.

Bellared Fri 30-Apr-10 20:13:14

Thanks, I hope yours goes alot better this time round. At least you know what to expect.

It does look longer, I think it was the wallpaper and tracksuits on some of the people.

mookle Fri 30-Apr-10 20:49:32

grin yes some interesting outfits and wallpaper I know exactly what you mean! I actually toyed with the idea of being filmed as I was asked when I was about 30 weeks pregnant if I wanted to be but in the end said no. Am quite glad now!

cath476 Tue 08-Jun-10 23:01:33

I had ds1 at Billinge and ds2 at RAEI. Ds1 was induced and I had a long, traumatic labour, although once on the delivery suite counln't fault the midwives. I was very poorly afterwards and needed a blood transfusion. My extremely low blood count was picked up for 2 days and the midwives actually looked frightened when they realised how low my count was (below 5). Despite this, I felt the care my ds and I received was considerate, kind and helpful in the main. I was given help with breastfeeding and shown how to bath him etc.
Fast-forward 3 years and elective c-section with ds2 at RAEI. No issues with theatre staff but the ward was TERRIBLE. They were full to capacity, I was left (post c-section) to my own devices, made to feel an inconvenience when I needed help initially lifting ds1 during the first night in order to breast feed. I was TOLD by one midwife that she was going to give my boy a bottle because "I wasn't producing any milk" (this was despite my pointing out that at this stage only colostrum is produced and could be clearly seen around his mouth) I just as firmly told HER that under no circumstances was she to give my child anything resembling a bottle and that at 12 hours old he was perfectly normal to be wanting to be fed so regularly. On the day we were leaving, my dh and I bathed the baby and a first time mum on the same ward came over and asked if she could watch as she was also being discharged and had not been shown. The 'nursery' where they take babies to give mums a rest was a small store cupboard used for pillows, cotton wool, nappies etc.
For a new unit (this was 2005) I thought it was badly planned out, too cramped and the nursing levels were woefully inadequate. I would also question the bedside manner of more than one midwife working there.
Wish me luck - dc3 is due later in the year!!! I am ready for RAEI though - just let them try and cross me!!! lol - in fact, scratch that - wish THEM luck - I won't tolerate sub-standard care as easily this time around!!

mookle Thu 10-Jun-10 15:48:17

cath476 - Im also due to have an ELCS at RAEI on 1st July so its useful to hear your expereince! Breastfeeding is sonething that i was never encouraged with or shown how to do properly with DS and it seems little has chan ged since the move from billinge to wigan!

cath476 Mon 14-Jun-10 16:22:50

mookle - good luck with your ELCS, as I said, the theatre staff were lovely ad I had no problems at all with them. I would just be quite firm about what you expect with the midwives. if you want to try breastfeeding then insist on the help and don't tske no for an answer.

mookle Sun 27-Jun-10 10:45:35

Thanks cath476 Seen the anaethsetist for pre-op and all systems go for section on thursday 1st july! Going to get DH to be around to help as much as possible and stick firm to my wishes to BF. Wish me luck!

mookle Mon 05-Jul-10 09:43:37

just wanted to post back in case anyone looking for info re raei wigan - what a different experience from billinge! the midwives were in the main absolutely fantastic, so kind, helpful and funny and the breastfeeding support was second to none. must have buzzed for help a million times as dd was a very impatient baby and screamed blue murder if milk not available immediately - not once did i ever get the impression they were anything other than really glad to help and i felt they took lots of time to explain things to me and also to emotionally support me when things were difficult, really validating my decision to bf. i also listened to them talk to those who were bottle feedinf - whih was about 70% - and they provided the same support and care. thank you wigan midwives and auxillaries you really made a difference to my second birth experience

cath476 Tue 06-Jul-10 18:48:02

mookle - congrats on your dd - I am so glad you had a positive experience, it makes me feel a little better for when I'm there in December! Congratulations again!!!!

mookle Tue 06-Jul-10 19:54:30

cath476 - it really was a lot better than i expected - there were one or two midwives who were of the billinge mentality but on the whole they were brilliant and massively supportive of breast feeding - i got so much help and i was spoken to as if i was doing this wonderful thing.

lots of luck for december! x

Lillabet Wed 16-Mar-11 22:03:11

I had DS in July 09 and I couldn't fault the care I received. I was induced and DH was allowed to stay well after visiting hours were over in case they decided to admit me. The delivery ward care was excellent and post natal care was also excellent. I was helped with breast feeding a lot and showed how to bath DS without asking. The midwives were fabulous, a couple of them were a bit strident, but on the whole I can't fault them (even when I managed to flood the bathroom on the bay!). I was given all the information I needed to give feedback. When I do get around to having DC2 I will be quite happy to go back to RAEI.

AppleyEverAfter Thu 17-Mar-11 12:34:00

Phew, Lillabet, have been watching this thread as I'm due in September. Been to RAEI last year for a blood test as I had MC and it seemed OK, staff were friendly etc. Going to see the labour ward at about 30 weeks I think. Glad to hear your experience was a good one smile

Bellared Sat 09-Apr-11 16:02:40

I know I said next time it'd be a home birth but I'll be going back to Wigan in Sept/Oct. I've thought about what's been said on this thread alot and I've spoken to friends who've given birth at other hospitals and they're all pretty much the same. I'm counting myself lucky this time too as it's not going to be closed downso I'll have to go miles away, have an influx of mothers coming from out of the area to give birth as their local units have closed down etc etc. I'm older and know what to expect this time round and will try and ensure I don't have an induction, how I don't know yet

Hopefully my experience of birth this time round will be different.

JenGas Wed 11-May-11 16:47:41

I had a quick delivery and the midwife who delivered my daughter was lovely. However I was told I would be on a ward for visiting time so I told all my family to come which they then got shouted at as I had not left the delivery suite. I finally left the delivery suite 7hrs after, which I find amazing as I gave birth in the assessment room.

The midwife and support workers on the ward were horrible and left me too it. I was in a side room and trying to breast Feed and waited 1hr for a glass of water. I ended up giving up beast feeding as they didn't show mr properly and ended up with brusies on my boobs and the pain was worse than child birth. I also didn't like the pressure they put on you to breast feed and when I have another child I will be making sure they do not push me around and make me feel guilty.

It also took me 8hrs to be discharged which I thought was terrible as I just wanted to go home. The support worker spoke to my husband like he was nothing too!

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